The most heated debate in college basketball the past two days has been whether Kansas should remain No. 1 despite its loss to Oklahoma State or be pushed down to No. 2 in favor of Syracuse.

Sorry, Orange. In a close vote, our bloggers stuck with the Jayhawks.

Kansas and Syracuse each split eight first-place votes in our weekly blogger poll, but the Jayhawks kept first place because they received four second-place votes and the Orange got three seconds and a third. Kentucky, Duke and Kansas State rounded out the rest of the top five.

New Mexico made the biggest rise in the poll this week, climbing to No. 7 after an impressive road win at BYU. Purdue, on the other hand, fell from fourth to eighth as a result of an injury to Robbie Hummell and a home loss to Michigan State.

Entering the poll this week were Horizon League champion Butler and SEC powers Vanderbilt and Tennessee. BYU and Georgetown each dropped out after losses, as did Wisconsin despite clobbering Indiana in its only game this week.

1. Kansas (124)

Comment: We'll find out in a hurry whether Kansas' listless loss to Oklahoma State is legitimate cause for concern since the Jayhawks host Kansas State and visit Mizzou this week. (LW: 1)

2. Syracuse (123)

Comment: With an emphatic victory over Villanova in front of a record 34,616 orange-shirted fans at the Carrier Dome, Syracuse all but locked up first place in the Big East and a No. 1 seed in the NCAA tournament. (LW: 3)

3. Kentucky (112)

Comment: Want to know why Kentucky's struggling in the half court? Two-for-22 shooting from behind the arc in a loss to Tennessee decreased the Wildcats' 3-point shooting to 15 percent in its past four games. (LW: 2)

4. Duke (102)

Comment: If the Devils can survive a road test at Maryland this week and deliver a strong showing in the ACC tournament, they're very likely to claim the fourth No. 1 seed and avoid the Kansas, Kentucky and Syracuse until the Final Four. (LW: 5)

5. Kansas State (96)

Comment: A win in Lawrence this week against an angry Kansas team would elevate Kansas State into the No. 1 seed discussion, but otherwise the Wildcats are likely playing for a No. 2 seed. (LW: 6)

6. Ohio State (74)

Comment: Meet your new Big Ten leader. The surging Buckeyes are alone in first place by a half game after Robbie Hummel-less Purdue fell at Michigan State on Sunday afternoon. (LW: 8)

7. New Mexico (69)

Comment: There haven't been many more impressive road wins this season than the Lobos going into the Provo and taking down BYU to take over first place in the Mountain West. (LW: 10)

8. Purdue (67)

Comment: Purdue has winnable games against Iowa and Indiana this week, so maybe that will give the Boilers a chance to find their footing without Robbie Hummel.(LW: 4)

9. Villanova (66)

Comment: Who is the real Villanova? The team that started the season 20-1? Or the team that has lost 3 of 4 and looked anything but elite in the final 30 minutes at Syracuse on Saturday? (LW: 7)

10. West Virginia (61)

Comment: The Mountaineers can all but lock up a top four seed in the Big East tournament and a first-round bye if they can defeat Georgetown on Monday night. (LW: 9)

11. Michigan State (53)

Comment: Eight points and eight turnovers were not what Michigan State expected from Kalin Lucas against Purdue, but the Spartans won anyway to position themselves to earn a share of first place in the Big Ten. (LW: 11)

12. Temple (22)

Comment: The Owls officially Big Five champs after beating La Salle on Sunday. Now they set their sights on the Atlantic 10 title entering the final week of the regular season. (LW: 14)

13. Vanderbilt (21)

Comment: An overtime win against Georgia and an impressive win at Arkansas kept Vanderbilt in contention for the SEC East title. (LW: NR)

14. Pittsburgh (20)

Comment: Even with last week's loss at Notre Dame, the Panthers have still won six of seven to move to within a game of second place in the Big East. (LW: 12)

15. Butler (18)

Comment: The Bulldogs became the only team in the nation to complete conference play undefeated after overcoming the absence of Gordon Hayward to defeat Valpo last week. (LW: NR)

16. Tennesee (14)

Comment: No team has two better wins this season than the Vols' two against Kansas and Kentucky, which is why the Vols could earn a top-four NCAA tournament seed with a strong finish.  (LW: NR)

Others receiving votes:Wisconsin 13, BYU 8, Gonzaga 5, Texas 4, Georgetown 3, Baylor 2

Jeff Eisenberg and Matt Norlander, The Dagger

Zach Hayes, Rush The Court

Scott Procious, NBE Basketball Report

Gary Moore, The College Hardwood

Chris Kulenych & Craig Gately, Bracketology 101

Rob Dauster, Ballin is a Habit

Jameson Fleming, Bleacher Report

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A look around the league and the web that covers it. It's also important to note that the rotation order and starting nods aren't always listed in order of importance. That's for you, dear reader, to figure out.

C: HH. Report: Former Rockets guard Von Wafer(notes) is close to leaving Olympiakos and returning to the NBA.
PF: Empty The Bench. An introduction to advanced basketball statistics. Read this.
SF: Ross Siler, Salt Lake Tribune. "Pick against the Jazz on TNT at your own peril."
SG: KnickerBlogger.Net. Trading Nate Robinson(notes), the logistics.
PG: Sacramento Bee. In his past seven games, Beno Udrih(notes) is shooting 64.4 percent from the floor.
6th: FB&G. For the next two weeks, the Lakers will have "Hot Rod" Hundley to help call the action.
7th: Hornets Hype. The world shows some love — sans mullet, doorag — to rookie Marcus Buckets.
8th: Hardwood Paroxysm. Reasons to watch all 11 NBA games tonight.
9th: WoW. "For every athlete, a day will come when a player's production declines." Is Shaq there?
10th: CelticsHub. A bad sign for the league: After barely getting to the line early, the C's have quietly climbed into the top half of the league in FTAs.

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The Hunt: No. 11, Kansas State

The Hunt for the Most Interesting Team in the World is the Dagger's 2009-10 countdown preview series. Check out the overriding principles here.

Last year's record: 22-12 (9-7, Big 12)

2009-2010's toughest games: vs. Mississippi (L), vs. Dayton (W), at UNLV

Primary attraction: Of late at Kansas State, the talent hasn't stuck around for too long. This year, coach Frank Martin has some experience to go alongside first-round stars, which could get the Wildcats back in the tournament for just the second time since 1997.

Three items of undeniable interest:

1. Denis Clemente -- See above. See also the 44 and 33 he dropped last year against Texas and Missouri, respectively.

2.Young talent -- The playing time has been sparing so far for Martin's top recruit, forward Wally Judge, but he top 20 Rivals recruit and McDonald's All-American is expected to contribute alongside Curtis Kelly and Jamar Samuels as the season progresses. 

3. Rivalry back on? -- In 2008 the Wildcats snapped one of the most impressive (or ignominious, depending on how you look at it) streaks in the nation when they finally won a home game against cross-state rival Kansas. The Jayhawks had won an amazing 24 straight in Manhattan. Last year, Bill Self's team began the streak anew. On Jan. 30, 2010, two years to the day K-State got the win, Kansas comes to town again.

Rolando Blackman and Kansas State on the cover of a March 1981 Sports Illustrated? Sweet. Those purple jerseys? Sweeter:

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If you're a fight fan, this is a great month to come to Las Vegas. Over the next four weeks, there are three big MMA cards Sin City needs the help from The Ultimate Fighter 10 Finale, WEC 45 and UFC 108.

How about the deal offered by this Palms? Normally a concert at The Pearl and a one night stay runs $500. Wow! After the rodeo leaves town, the town dies until New Year's week. Clearly this is an attempt to lure someone to town. 

It's a strange time in the nation's craziest city with the $8.5 billion MGM City Center opening on Dec. 16 during what essentially is a depression. Meanwhile, one of the city's legendary hotels, Binion's, the original host of the World Series of Poker, just announced it's closing 350 rooms.

On the MMA front, the UFC has likely lost some coverage. The Las Vegas Sun, the smaller of the two Sin City newspapers, just had massive firings. Gone is longtime columnist Ron Kantowski and UNLV basketball beat writer Rob Miech (good move, UNLV just started 6-0 for the first time since 1992-93). The staff is essentially left with Brett Okamoto and Jeff Haney covering the fight game. The paper has made a concerted effort to go more web-based and appeal to a younger audience. It's really the only newspaper site in the country, not using a blog as its MMA source, that posts fight news on a daily basis.

WEC 45, headlined by Ed Ratcliff and Donald Cerrone, faces a stiff challenge on Dec. 19. as Strikeforce rolls out another card in San Jose. Rumored bouts on Showtime include:

Cung Le v. Scott Smith
Josh Thompson v. Gilbert Melendez
Robbie Lawler v. Trevor Prangley
Matt Lindland v. Ronaldo Souza
Mo Lawal v. Mike Whitehead 

That WEC 45 deal is hard to pass up. Fight tickets at The Palms are generally pretty pricey ($254-$504 for TUF 10 this weekend). It's like getting a five-star room for free. That said, the economy in Vegas is so bad that week that you can stay across the street in the much older Gold Coast for $42 a night. Rough times. 

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The Cram Session is a semi-daily melange of last night's most important hoops action. 

Illinois 76, Clemson 74 -- Clemson led by 20 at halftime. With 16:43 remaining they led by 23. At the 14:36 mark, the margin was 19. But just four minutes and eight seconds later, after a 21-1 run by Illinois, the game was tied. For the rest of the game neither team had more than a two-point lead. A missed, gimmie layup as time expired would have sent the game to overtime but, after the Tigers' earlier collapse, was anyone surprised that Demontez Stitt's runner was a little too strong? Clemson seems to have at least two of these types of games per year. 

Wisconsin 73, Duke 69 -- Clemson's loss was the Big Ten's gain. Thanks to late wins by Ohio State (over Florida State) and Wisconsin's upset of Duke, the Big Ten won the ACC/Big Ten Challenge for the first time in the event's 11-year history. Andre Dawkins (4-4 from beyond the arc) and Kyle Singler made valiant efforts to get Duke back in the game late, but they weren't enough to get past Trevon Hughes' 26.

Pittsburgh 67, Duquense 58 (2OT) -- If ever a textbook is written about how not to finish a game, the final 15 seconds of regulation from the Pitt-Duquense game would be chapters 1-4. Holding for the final shot, two Dukes players were inexplicably passing the ball back and forth while the Pitt defenders played back waiting for their move. The first such pass looked like it was going to skip out of bounds, which should have been a sign to stop such frivolity. The exchanges continued until a quick pass from  was returned so quickly that he was still barking out instructions to a teammate. The ball went out of bounds, giving Pitt the final shot. Then the Panthers failed to get anything off before the buzzer.

Kansas 98, Alcorn St. 31 -- After Alcorn State scored the first four points of the game, Kansas went on to score 36 straight. 

Loyola Marymount 91, Academy of Art 72 -- The Academy of Art in San Francisco is the largest private school of art and design in the country. It bills itself as a school "by artists for artists". It also has a basketball team, which greatly contrasts with the world view of most teen-based sitcoms and movies I've ever seen. (Artists that are athletes?! Whom sneers at whom from afar?) The athletics logo is pretty sweet (as you'd expect from an art school), as is the "Urban Knights" name. 

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Each weekday morning, BDL serves up a handful of NBA-related stories to digest with your tacos.

Steve Politi, The Star-Ledger: "An arena official approached the Julianos and told them [their 'End Ratner's Reign of Error!' sign] was against arena rules. Dave Juliano asked, if it was against the rules, why were they allowed to bring the sign into the building in the first place? No one had an answer to that. Richard Singleton, the security official who instructed the sign to come down, said it had nothing to do with the message, only the size. 'If it's too big,' he said, 'it has to come down.' Maybe there is such a policy, it sure wasn't enforced on the other signs in the building. Nor was it back a few years ago, when Jason Kidd(notes) — here as a cruel reminder of the good days — led this team to back-to-back NBA Finals. There were all sorts of enthusiastic signs in the arena then. Juliano has a right to be furious. He is the rare paying season-ticket holder — one of just 1,500, according to one executive, if you combine all the full and partial plans. Why buy tickets? The team gives away more freebies than the Salvation Army. The Julianos pay $85 a seat for 41 home games — nearly $7,000 for the season. They drive in from New Rochelle every game, across the George Washington Bridge, in rush-hour traffic. Forget holding up a sign. They should be able to coach the team."

K.C. Johnson, Chicago Tribune: "As he was so many times during his five-season Bulls career, Ben Gordon(notes) proved right on target with his prediction that he would hear more boos than cheers Wednesday night. [...] Playing his first game as a visitor at the United Center, Gordon returned from a two-game absence with a sprained left ankle to come off the bench midway through the first quarter to a mixture of boos and cheers. From then on, boos rained down consistently on Gordon, who finished with 18 points in 31 minutes. 'It's not like I won a championship while I was here or anything,' Gordon said. 'We just had a couple of good years. So I wasn't surprised at all.' Luol Deng(notes), Gordon's 2004 draft classmate, was. He also wasn't happy. 'Honestly, I didn't like that at all,' Deng said. 'When BG was here, he played hard and really committed to the game. I know he's not here. But he didn't do anything bad to the organization. I thought they were going to cheer for him. He played hard. I was disappointed in that. He should have gotten a better reception than that.'"

George Thomas, The Plain Dealer: "In the end, Zydrunas Ilgauskas(notes) didn't want the pomp and circumstance of an in-game ceremony to mark the fact that he broke the Cavs' record for playing in the most games. He just wanted to celebrate with the fans who'd been there for his 11 NBA seasons. 'That was one of the coolest things I experienced in my life and also the closest I've come to tears on the basketball floor,' he said. But like any human being, he said that not playing in Saturday's game against the Dallas Mavericks, which would have represented the record-breaking moment, disappointed him. Considering the fact that he lost his starting job and graciously moved to the bench without any qualms, it's easy to see his point. Ilgauskas didn't take questions from the media Wednesday, which leads one to believe that there's a lot more to what happened in this situation.'"

Tim Povtak, NBA FanHouse"A strange season for the New York Knicks is getting stranger by the game. No one really expected the Knicks to win in Orlando Wednesday night — not after they played Phoenix on Tuesday — but they did expect to see what mighty-mite Nate Robinson(notes) could do against Dwight Howard(notes). Didn't happen. And no one wanted to say why. We could only assume. Robinson scored a game-high 24 points last week in New York against the Magic, including 22 in the fourth quarter when he led a failed comeback, but he never got off the bench Wednesday. It looked like his shorts were nailed to his seat. He may have averaged 22 points in four games last season against the Magic. He may have led the Knicks in scoring in three of the last four games, but coach Mike D'Antoni had no interest in playing him Wednesday at Amway Arena. 'Coach's decision, that would be the reason,' D'Antoni said after his Knicks were spanked, 118-104, at Amway Arena. 'There's always a reason. I'm not going to stand here and explain it. We're just trying to find a winning formula. If he's conducive to winning, then he'll obviously get back into the lineup.'"

RealGM/Philadelphia Daily News: "Philadelphia coach Eddie Jordan is looking for a way to fit Allen Iverson(notes) into the team's starting lineup. 'We're looking at a couple options,' Jordan said of how Iverson will fit with the 76ers. 'One of the options we're looking at is obviously, I would like him to start. I haven't talked to the team about it, but it's a thought process. When I make that decision I will talk to the team first and then will tell you guys. I'm really looking to see if he can fit into our starting lineup, but it's not etched in stone.' Iverson is expected to begin his second tenure with the 76ers on Monday night against the Nuggets." 

Ken Sugiura, AJC: "Wednesday night at Philips Arena, the Hawks mauled Toronto with an all-out ambush the likes of which the arena had never seen. The Hawks won 146-115, scoring the most points in a game since the 1992-93 season. They did it despite no player scoring more than 24 points, center Al Horford(notes). Nine different players reached double figures for the Hawks, which hadn't happened since the 1987-88 season. 'We were simply outclassed,' Toronto coach Jay Triano said. 'They just destroyed us.' The 12,272 at Philips Arena were witness to something of a perfect storm. The Raptors were on a four-game losing streak, playing their fourth game in six days and second in as many nights and are a weak defensive team. The Hawks had two days of rest and were ready to wash away the residue of an embarrassing loss on Sunday to Detroit and eager to return to the form that won them seven in a row. Combined with the Hawks' comfort at Philips, a strong first quarter for the home team and one of the worst games of All-Star forward Chris Bosh's(notes) career, the Raptors had little chance."

Dave Feschuk, Toronto Star: "Maybe Sam Mitchell was bored: On the eve of the one-year anniversary of his firing as Raptors coach, Mitchell spent his Wednesday night watching his former team play his hometown Hawks. He found out soon enough that little has changed for the better since he left. With the former coach sitting in the second row across the court from the Toronto bench, the listless, fight-less Raptors lost their fifth straight game in a blowout, 146-115. Meanwhile Mitchell's successor, Jay Triano, awoke Thursday morning on the one-year anniversary of his promotion to head coach facing his first public crisis on the job. After an unconscionable defensive effort that saw the Raptors surrender the second-most points in franchise history, more than one player openly criticized the coach's schemes in the game's solemn wake. And more than one veteran voice said Triano is failing to call out the players who are making the most egregious defensive mistakes. 'Every time something happens it's always, 'It's okay, it's all right.' It's not all right,' said Jarrett Jack(notes), the reserve guard. 'Problems go by without attacking them or challenging them or bringing them to the forefront and getting them solved. We can't keep keep putting them to the back of the bus and just saying, 'That's okay.' It's not all right.'"

Marc Stein, TrueHoop"Raja Bell goes in for a wrist operation Thursday that's kind of a big deal. Especially if you like to follow the trade market. Only by having surgery can Bell and the Golden State Warriors learn the severity of the torn ligament in the 33-year-old's left wrist. Bell has been advised by experts in the field that a full-blown repair will sideline him at least four months and potentially the rest of the regular season. In the best-case scenario, though, Bell could be back in a month. Which would almost certainly put him right back on the trade market. I'm told that a few contenders have already registered their interest by making inquiries about Bell's availability even though he just got to Golden State on Nov. 16 in the Stephen Jackson(notes) deal. Makes sense, too. What contender couldn't use a wing defender of Bell's stature who can also drain the weak-side 3 and who happens to be playing on an expiring contract valued at a reasonable $5.3 million?"

Terry Foster, The Detroit News: "Let's officially launch the 'Bring Chris Kaman(notes) to the Pistons' campaign. Kaman, the 6-foot-10 low post center from Central Michigan, is exactly what the Pistons need. He has no chance of winning a title — OK, winning at all — with the L.A. Clippers. And how's this for trade bait? Tayshaun Prince(notes), when he gets healthy. Prince is from Compton, Calif., so he'll be going home. And Kaman is from Grand Rapids. Makes sense. Still, you might have to find a third team to make it work or wait for Kaman to become a free agent in 2013. So, how would Kaman feel about the proposal? 'That would not be bad,' he said last week when the Clippers were at The Palace. 'I have always thought about it, but I thought it might be a nightmare with ticket requests for every game.'"

Paul Flannery, WEEI: "In his seventh season, [Kendrick] Perkins has established himself as one of the NBA's best interior defenders. By now most people have caught on that the Celtics often match him up with the opposition's best offensive big man, which frees up [Kevin] Garnett to be a superior help defender. That should get Perkins votes for the All-Defensive team this season. If he can continue developing his offensive game, Perkins could earn All-Star consideration. Orlando's Dwight Howard is clearly the best true center in the game, but Perkins is among a handful of players in the East who could emerge for a second spot. It's still a longshot at this point, but he deserves to be in the conversation."

Mike Wells, Indianapolis Star: "Indiana Pacers coach Jim O'Brien did everything he could to let Brandon Rush(notes) keep the starting shooting guard spot. He stuck with Rush even though Dahntay Jones(notes) had clearly outplayed him in the early part of the season. O'Brien tried running plays to get Rush going early in games. He publicly applauded Rush when he did the little things well — which hasn't been often — like rebounding and defending. None of that sparked Rush out of his funk, so O'Brien finally pulled the plug on his second-year player. In a move that has been expected for a couple of weeks, O'Brien not only yanked Rush out the starting lineup, he took him out the rotation."

Tim MacMahon, ESPN Dallas: "Mavericks center Erick Dampier(notes) revealed that the medical condition that required him to be rushed to a Michigan hospital Nov. 15 was numbness in his arm. Dampier experienced the symptoms while warming up before the Mavericks' win over the Detroit Pistons and was transported to the hospital in an ambulance. He stayed overnight in the hospital and sat out eight games while doctors ran a series of medical tests. [...] 'Obviously, I'm a lot better than I was,' Dampier said during an interview on the ESPN 103.3 postgame show after Wednesday's win over the New Jersey Nets. 'We ran some tests just to make sure everything was OK. I just had a little numbness in my arm, but it's a lot better now. I haven't had any problems since and hopefully don't have those problems again.'"

Jonathan Feigen, Houston Chronicle: "For a decision to be based on something so simple, the question of when Tracy McGrady(notes) will play basketball quickly grew complicated. After all the drama of his declared target date now two weeks past and insistence that he is ready, McGrady has returned to Rockets practices and continued to travel with the team, hoping for his chance like so many players on the fringe of a roster. Rockets coach Rick Adelman said again on Wednesday that there is 'no timetable' for McGrady's return. There is, he said, one criterion to meet for McGrady to make his season debut. McGrady, Adelman said, must be ready in Adelman's estimation to help the Rockets win. As uncomplicated as that seems, however, the decision seems more about basketball than health considerations, with the Rockets wanting McGrady to improve in private workouts and team practices, rather than to move his next step of rehab to actual games. McGrady's most recent prediction about when he would return had him playing by the Rockets' current road trip. That now seems unlikely."

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Nets lose NBA-record 18th straight to start season (AP)

Dallas Mavericks' Dirk Nowitzki, right, of Germany, shoots over New Jersey Nets' Josh Boone, left, during the second quarter of an NBA basketball game Wednesday, Dec. 2, 2009, in East Rutherford, N.J. (AP Photo/Bill Kostroun)AP - They are off to the worst start in NBA history, and the New Jersey Nets might not have hit bottom yet.


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